The licence, GPL versus Commercial

[zenny]

Babarji:

I am just wondering your code seems to be developed around GPLed iaxclient libraries. And according to the GPL and my friend RMS if you develop something on top of GPL you also need to release the source code under GPL. I am just wondering whether your webclient is released under GPL since the main component of your development are GPLed core like iaxclient? If not, you are obliged to as you are using the GPL component as core and anyone has every right to modify, upgrade and so on, provided they make their changes public.

It is important to stress here because under the GPL, you can charge for your services, but not for the software nor you can patent the software. The GPLv3 is being drafted in much a liberal way.

BTW, yeh baat mujhe samaja mein nahin aa rahaa hai? kya aap bata sakatein hai ki aapka kaisa licence hai? Main bahut baar Karachi shair ke liye pahuncha hun, bahut khubsurat sheher hain. :-)

[zenny]

Haven\'t seen anyone replying to my curiosity above! Is the developer paying attention to? Or it is TiVonization*? If not, do see: http://gpl-violations.org

*TiVo is the TV console made on top of GNU/Linux but they never felt like releasing the source code of the modifications they made. Therefore TiVonization is a peculiar attribute RMS pointed to.

[Babar Shafiq Nazmi]

Hello zenny,

Welcome to my forum, Main thing is Its not GPL its LGPL and the main difference between the GPL and the LGPL is that the latter can be linked to (in the case of a library, \'used by\') a non-(L)GPLed program, which may be free software or proprietary software [1]. This non-(L)GPLed program can then be distributed under any chosen terms, provided the terms allow "modification for the customer\'s own use and reverse engineering for debugging such modifications."

Asterisk and libiax code is available LGPL not GPL, ok

So read this link very carefully and come back here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGPL

My changes are already merged in the main library from some time now.
I posted some patches for windows you can still use it if u r developing something like it.

Hope now u understand my type of license and everything is clear to you now and please tell this to your friend RMS..

Regards,
Babar Shafiq Nazmi.

[Babar Shafiq Nazmi]

Hi zenny,

In addition to my last post, i want the free use of my control and widely use thats why i open my forum and provide links for iax2 SDK, webphones, click2call and samples to download otherwise its easy for me to provide commercial services that i m providing from 4 years. but i want nobody use it for commercial use as they are using free thing, but if they want it for commercial services I am also providing commercial services from www.silicontechnix.com platform.

Thats my license simply and thats my terms and conditions for using my work. I don\'t understand whats the thing you are not able to understand in it. Its so simple

Thanks and Regards,
Babar Shafiq Nazmi.

[zenny]

In the wikipedia link you have given, the second paragraph reads:

The main difference between the GPL and the LGPL is that the latter can be linked to (in the case of a library, \'used by\') a non-(L)GPLed program, which may be free software or proprietary software [1]. This non-(L)GPLed program can then be distributed under any chosen terms, provided the terms allow "modification for the customer\'s own use and reverse engineering for debugging such modifications."

So, the crux of the matter is even if you have chosen a different term, you have to release the source code and allow the users to modify for the customer\'s own use and reverse engineering for their own purpose and you can not restrict whether it is commercial or not.

Anyway you have just created a WRAPPER script around the LGPLed code. So you are obliged to release the source code according to the page that you yourself referred to me.

I think I made the stuff clear. Anyway, I am not going to use your wrapper because it is based on ActiveX controls. I am putting this question just for the justice and freedom of software hegemony.[/quote]

[Babar Shafiq Nazmi]

Hi,

-The main difference between the GPL and the LGPL is that the latter can be linked to (in the case of a library, \'used by\') a non-(L)GPLed program, which may be free software or proprietary software [1]. This non-(L)GPLed program can then be distributed under any chosen terms, provided the terms allow "modification for the customer\'s own use and reverse engineering for debugging such modifications."

Its mean library not the control thats why i said read it carefully

Its wrapper or anything u r still not able to understand it ask ur friend RMS to read it for u.

As i said earlier i already provided my patches that are usefull for compiling iax2 library on windows are already merged in it. So it (library) is already available with source code and you can use it.

The communication interface is not LGPL or GPL its close source for now.
If u r not going to use it then what r u doing here by the way i don\'t like ppl who uses other source code and put their name on it. Thats why I didn\'t release the source code of my iax2 control.

Any way thanks for ur comments and please don\'t post such question on my forum without understanding. Instead of saying thanks to me for my free/hard work you are waisting my time

Thanks and Regards,
Babar Shafiq Nazmi.

[zenny]

Actually, I smell Musharraf/Zia-ul-Haq in your tone.

You read and understand yourself the quote if you try to understand. Else, it is futile to continue debate with those who pose like Hilters or Stalin.

There are a lot of leeches who exploit the voluntary works of thousands of people. I hope you are not the one. That\'s it!